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I agree, Stan, that shooternz should get what he needs to keep working and do that where it benefits him. I would want to see shooternz ( and many in forums too who love working on stuff ) benefit from...

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big fishing war between the southeast asia fishing fleet and the china aircraft carrierJust one more thing to worry about....

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LOL.. Stan.. that was supposed to be 'an example' of a 'variable'.. not reality. A simile (sp? ). It could be ANYTHING. I've done ip tracking stuff to see pings for networked stuff ( gaming years ago...

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"Adobe made it available"; and others, e.g. Harm, has received special offers too ... that looks like a trend to me

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Perhaps somewhere in Adobe there is someone with a conscience, who feels that people like Craig and Harm, who effectively are Adobe Support, deserve some kind of recompense for their services. If so,...

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think of it as beta testing...it is good for the company via the forum monitor suggestions, to have some people get stuff so they can keep contributing to the forum...and plus troubleshoot the stuff...

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Craig, That does sound like a great offer, and one that I had not heard of before. While it might be construed as a softening of Adobe on the CC concept, I think that it shows that they are working...

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It seems that Adobe's strategy is to get the "big players" silenced by special offers. Sad.I am with Steven here (though he and I disagree on several CC related things), and see it instead, as Adobe...

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Alan Perhaps somewhere in Adobe there is someone with a conscience, who feels that people like Craig and Harm, who effectively are Adobe Support, deserve some kind of recompense for their services.Let...

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Rod, Besides the many threads in several of the Adobe Forums, there has also been major pushback by some heavy-hitters, such as NAPP (National Association for Photoshop Professionals), and many Web...

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I couldn't care less what facebook and twitter users say about this. They are not into making movies in the real world...and if they ARE in some capacity a crew member or employee of some production...

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As far as Im concerned,any "Offer" that doesnt give you software to access your CC files if you stop paying is not a good offer. Dont get suckered into the Eternal Renting scam.

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Just to put my own attitude in perspective, Bill... I've been working on a project idea for the past 1.5 years.. and have bought about $15,000 worth of junk to do it....part of that was buying creative...

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Bill, Steve,You wanna get into the act of documenting the ability of using ADOBE PRODUCTS in a collaborative effort over the INTERNET ???? Is that the main tissue at hand ? ( pg wodehouse detective...

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Anyway, lets say I do it with music that I pick out that's copyrighted etc. and dont have rights to use it...but get the tempo and pace down okay...using stuff that is already out there.And then I hire...

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Exactly!  I don't see the deal here!

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Reply all I am not going to reveal the pricing on this deal but I assure everyone it is considerably superior to what is being quoted above. I also want to assure everyone that this deal does not feel...

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Shooternz -   "One never owned it anyway." If you need to rationalize giving in to the Eternal Rental or Lease or whatever it makes you feel better calling it, that's fine. But please, lets not add...

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But please, lets not add semantic gymnastics to the BS.+1

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Effectively I always been in the "eternal loop" of paying Adobe something regularly anyway. Every single upgrade since the start of this Premiere's existence ....and it is fact , I dont own any of them...

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http://www.adobe.com/volume-licensing/vip-resellers.html

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Checked  out VIP offer. $475 for a year if you sign up before August. Ha ha. Such a deal.As a CS6 user I could get it for a year for $360. And of course immediatley lose it if I didnt want to update....

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Why do you still care Tom? You should stick by your resolve and just be happy with your decision. ie. let it go. BTW - thanx for rubbing the noses of non U.S users  in the fact of the privileged prices...

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No change in resolve here. Just curiosity. I just wanted to see what kind of great deal you were alluding to. I forgot the highway robbery rates Adobe imposed on the rest of the world. After 13 years...

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Ah, you outlaw bikers. that's a saying adapted from motorcycle circlesWhen I get to Christchurch, I anticipate seeing hundreds of outlaw bikers, running rough-shod around town, sort of like The Wild...

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The deal I got is half the price of  what it could have been. That equates to approximately the same as if I had I had done an upgrade to a "perpetual licence version" .  So I call that a deal. BTW -...

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Ann Bens wrote: http://www.adobe.com/volume-licensing/vip-resellers.html This explains why my local reseller is expensive - not on this list.  I tried a reseller on the list and came up with £435...

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Craig, I got a similar offer from Adobe, 50% rebate for two years on the US price although it did not mention whether I could use my Dutch credit card or if it still required a US card. I responded:  I...

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That is pretty insulting to those of us who prefer not to pay $2500 up front when $50 per month will do the trick. You are also ignoring the fact that many of us never go back and edit old projects. We...

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>As for inheritors, I don't have any. I plan on spending every last penny My former boss (retired the same day I did) also has nobody to inherit, and he and his wife like to travel, so he planned to...

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========I hate the idea I can no longer access my own copyrighted material if I stop paying rent.=======I find this an interesting statement.I have a sorta 'contract' thing with some still photo stock...

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think of this another way...The NSA gets a court order to get the phone records company X has on their servers. Company X gives the records to the NSA. The NSA did NOT ask the customer to comply ( you...

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And one more note:  You will have noticed by now that trailers and teasers and ads for motion pictures and so on... is done through the corporate websites of the distributer or producer /...

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My mother had a reverse mortgage. It gave her piece of mind because her investment accounts, which she eventually left to her children, never went down except for market fluctuations. I plan on doing...

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John T Smith wrote: >As for inheritors, I don't have any. I plan on spending every last penny My former boss (retired the same day I did) also has nobody to inherit, and he and his wife like to...

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This will amuse some of you. I just paid the Invoice for my VIP Team Subscription. On the invoice in the Product Description Column: 'Adobe Creative Cloud Team GRAND GESTURE Promo 12m ends 31/08' The...

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If after all the feedback they have been getting from thousands of unhappy, loyal customers, the is best they can come up with, I'd say its a pretty PATHETIC GESTURE. 

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You really have no idea how important it is to make things work NOW...when dealing with motion pics etc...if you think Internet connection and subscription has any place in that reality. Curious that...

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I am going to say that I am going to be really, really pissed if Adobe do anything via the Cloud to the application or my system without giving me the option of do I want to or not.  eg Automatic...

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There are three different thought on this rental model: It is attractively priced for the poor who have not saved enough to buy a perpetual license. Credit risk.It looks nice for people who do not...

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App by app, you have to click on the one's you want to upgrade/update. So you can feel free to update the minor apps or apps you seldom use, and keep the version you are using for a project like in...

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If you upload anything to youtube, youtube owns the rights to that stuff... the actual stuff uploaded onto youtube...belongs to youtube.  Now, this is a bit tricky and nobody I know has had to deal...

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you don't see the originator of the source material ( copyrighted ) using youtube for advertising. Sure you do....

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Nice quality too, huh? As Jim so nicely points out, the quality issues we used to have with YouTube are long gone. You can regularly see amazingly clean HD. I watch YouTube on a 46" HDTV in my living...

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Have you also noticed that both Adobe staff and mods are getting very itchy about criticism about the rental model ? Actually, no.  Seems to me folks are still voicing their criticisms in threads...

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probably a good idea to sign up for and pay for an account on youtube for showing trailers etc..I guess like having your own account gives some different environment for copyrighted stuff ?  Gee , I...

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I don't know if YouTube has paid accounts.  I've only ever seen free accounts, to which all my answers do apply.

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here's a good place to start looking at stuff... http://www.youtube.com/yt/copyright/index.html as said earlier, the ownership thing is tricky with regard to being able to 'sue' youtube or hold them...

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more interesting stuff 'partnership program '... http://mashable.com/2012/04/13/youtube-opens-partner-program/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22474715

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the ownership thing is tricky with regard to being able to 'sue' youtube or hold them liable for copyright infringement...like someone copies your content and uses it in some other venue etc I wouldn't...

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